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SPOILER WARNING! Daggers in the Dark by Vesea SPOILER WARNING! Daggers in the Dark by Vesea
One of the strangest  and most illogical episodes of ASOIAF which we are going to see in series 5 i think (And I'm sure the chapter will be named "Daggers in the Dark"). What had happened? Mass insanity at The Wall and a strain of weird decisions made by all the members of the accident? I'm looking forward to know how Martin will explain it...
"What for? - For the Watch!"
(a lot of left-handed people killing poor jon snow and crying)
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hixcup Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2015  Student General Artist
I like how you represented the book in this artwork! they cut out a really important part, changing Jons death.
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Leelas-Sketches Featured By Owner May 31, 2015  Student Digital Artist
omfg
this is beyond amazing
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bloodsword34 Featured By Owner May 6, 2015
I love jon's expression like "Dude, da fuck"
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MissCraban Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
OH YES, it's just ideal! Well done! :happybounce: 
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RowenaStormborn Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I was just like "wtf, they killed jon???", when I read it, but I'm not sure... maybe he survived. By the way, extremly cool pic!
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Reilune Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014  Professional General Artist
..but I.. T.T
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LordCommanderSnow Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014   General Artist
Duuuuude. This isn't okay. I mean, it's awesome, but it's not an okay thing to post.
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lilifane Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is just perfect! Every detai of it. I can't take my eyes off the picture.

I'm tryind to find an explanation for Jon's last decision, too. Every decision he made before I understood, the last one is hard. But I think, Jon is starting to question the ancient rules of the Nights Watch... or better the way they are interpreted in the present. And I think because he changes so much [allows wildings south of the wall (because they are humans after all), takes risk to rascue them (because he takes the threat by the Others seriously and sees the danger of thousands of dead wildlings), asks them to join the Nights Warch or at least help out (because he needs every fighting person he can get), helps Stannis (because he knows that no one in the South takes the Nights Watch seriously and Stannis is his only hope to change that and get more support/men)], it's not a big step to decide to help a loved one.
I think his biggest mistake is the same Ned made. He's too naive to see the danger among his own men. He's honest with them and expects them to accept his decisions and go through with them. He doesn't see the hate that is built up towards him (because he has so many important things on his mind). He doesn't listen to Melisandre and her warnings because she was really vague on this one (I see daggers and cold, you will need me) and, let's be honest, she's the worst prophecy-interpretor ever!
And Arya, well. Perhaps he feels guilty that he couldn't help any other of his family. To him they all are dead. Ned dead, Catelyn dead. Robb dead because Jon wasn't there to help him in his war. Bran and Rickon dead because Jon wasn't there to protect them. Sansa missing, probably dead. Aray was missing and presumed dead for a long time, too. Perhaps the thought, that Jon gets a second chance to rexcue the last living family member was too overwhelming. He still is very young and unexperienced as a Lord Commander in such a situation. And I think Arya of all his "siblings" is the most important to him and this is the first time he has the chance to prevent a death.
It's still hard to understand with all the threats and dangers and chaos beyond/at the wall and Jon being the only one to see it.

I'm so curious about what will happen next. Will he survive? Will Melisandre help him? Before or after he dies? Will he stay human, become someone like Beric oder Lady Stoneheart, become an Other? So many possibilities.
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Vesea Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014
I agree, but Arya... The Pink Letter said that Arya escaped and was not in Winterfell anymore, so whom could he save?..
I find it very chaotic - all that had happened there. Not only Jon's decisions, but what everybody did.
I'm very curious too. He certainly will survive or "survive" or resurrect or warg in some way... The question is how exactly and which after-effects will it cause?
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lilifane Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, I thought Ramsay lied that he had Jayne in the letter. My mistake. Well, then it's a really strange decision. Why would Jon want to march for Winterfel? The only person to save there is Mance, even the castle is in ruins and only Ramsays men left there. This doesn't make any sense.
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Aiedail00 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2014
NOO! that's the first art portraying this moment i found since i've ended the saga. Now I'm really gonna be sobbing for the rest of my life byee
(but srsly love you for this, it's so so beautiful)
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OcioProduction Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hey hey, noone red the books???????
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Swniver Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
WAIT !!!!! HE'S NOT GONNA DIE IS HE???
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Vesea Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014
Keep calm, nobody knows if Jon Snow will die in any book or not)
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Swniver Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
God, if he dies I kill GRRM.

Anyway, really good job, this painting is incredible, really. When I watch it I can feel the cold wind, the frozen snow and the tension of the scene.
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Joshmoe93 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
The Night's King sits back on his throne, chuckles quietly to himself, and whispers "Just as planned."
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Swaja Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Beautiful drawing, I think the scene is very logical, though of course shocking :)
Ps. I love Jon's beard, the details are awesome XD
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Vesea Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Firstly I cant understand Jon's motivation for his last decision. Then, I imagine the chaos on the wall after this event - who fill benefit from it? And finally, why couldn't he protect himself? He isn't Sam, he's Jon! The reason for all this is for me even more interesting than it's consequences...
Hehe, close-up for the beard demiart.ru/forum/uploads15/pos…
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
There wasn't much choice in Jon's decision, as I see it.  Arya or no Arya, Ramsay pretty clearly meant to attack the Wall, to kill Jon, the queen, and Melisandre.  Expelling either of those two would have been difficult and costly.  More to the point, Ramsay was demanding Theon and Arya, neither of which Jon had.  There wasn't a way to avoid a confrontation with Ramsay--though Jon's private desires probably did come into it.  And if he had to have troops, but he couldn't command the Watch to fight for him.  So his move was really very logical.

However, so was the decision of the Stewards.  From their POV, Jon had just revealed that he had been working with the king and had been working with Mance the whole time.  He was letting Wildlings through the wall without a fight, and he had just made a call to arms for the Night's Watch to go against Bolton--open treason and the sort of thing that would mark the Wall as traitors all.  Killing him--and, presumably, giving over Melisandre and the Queen to Ramsay--would allow the Wall to remain neutral.

As for what happened after, almost certainly Bowen Marsh and the others would be locked away or even killed.  Perhaps, if they had a LOT of supporters, they might be able to avoid death, but I'm pretty sure they were taken down, and I'm pretty sure they even knew they would be.  The assassination wasn't a power grab, it was, from their POV, a sacrificial killing to preserve all the Wall stood for.
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Swaja Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think he decided to rescue Arya because he cares about her a lot (and the fact that he knows where she is and she's not missing anymore made it more real for him), then there's the sick Ramsay of who Jon mostly likely heard too and maybe he also got backed by Stannis. But I agree that it's a bit weird that he got lost in his emotions on the matter, specially after all the hard decisions he already had to make.
I'm not sure I correctly understand your second question, but if you mean the event is him trying to take back winterfell, when obviously Stannis, cause Jon or whoever would rule Winterfel would have to back Stannis cause. If you mean the general chaos, I think the night's watch didn't thought it as chaos, I think they thought stopping Jon and choosing new Commander was the only way to stop the unusual things that are already happening.
Hmm, I'm not sure for the last one, but my guess would be that he was super shocked, and lost in disbelief and couldn't protect himself.

Of course I can be very wrong, and it's been quite a while since I read the books so there might be some details I'm missing. :)
Gosh, I can't wait to see how things actually go on, can't wait for the new book :la:

Wow, the details look awesome in the close up too, superb :)
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Vesea Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014
I absolutely agree, and this explanation is the most logical for me too. But you also see that Jon was lost... why? He didn't lose his head in much more difficult situations. He acted a bit like Ned Stark here - and we remember how Ned ended. And you see a total mess and chaos and panic everywhere - Wun Wun and ser Patrek for example, and why didn't Jon take Ghost with him - even though he saw that Ghost was very nervous and Mormont's crow warned him? Jon always notices all the signs and thinks a lot before doing something important. Well, he is a human and tired already, maybe that's the reason... Anyway, we can only make theories until Martin tells us what it really was.
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Swaja Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now that you mentioned it, I see the similarity between him ans his so called "father" XD.
You made me reread some parts (wow, it's addicting) XD XD,  well as the books says he locked ghost for security, obviously it wasn't a good idea XD, couldn't find the raven part. I agree, he must be really tired, also there were just so many things to take care of it must be really over helming.
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InPBo Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student General Artist
T^T FEEEEELLLLLINGGGGGGGGSSSSSSS

but i think is not true... we will see it :')
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Vesea Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
No doubt not true ;)
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NamidaWolf Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Professional Writer
:'(
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JonasScharf Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Wait, is that a spoiler?
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Vesea Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
It's not a spoiler for nearly 3 years already ^^ what happened a minute later - that would be a spoiler... but I don't know too.
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JonasScharf Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Well, I haven't read the books and this group you submitted it to is called GOT(the show) not ASOIAF(the books)...soo it's a spoiler to me and a lot of other people, too.
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Vesea Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Removed it. Thanks.
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LauraTheStrange97 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Fantastic work!
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Vesea Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Thank you)
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